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PostSubject: Appropriate Side Decks (INTERACTIVE ARTICLE!)   Sat Dec 03, 2011 2:57 pm

Approved by RS!
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My name is Jin Kazama and I am going to talk about something you may or may not have heard of in tournaments: Side Decks.

It's simple, right? Fifteen cards in your side deck that help you counter other decks. But that's not as easy as it sounds. Let's have a little bit of fun. An interactive exercise for you duelists, with my deck:

Dark Turbo

Monsters - 21
3 Thunder King Rai-Oh
3 Reborn Tengu
1 Black Luster Soldier
1 Spirit Reaper
1 Sangan
1 Caius the Shadow Monarch
2 Destiny Hero - Malicious
2 Destiny Hero - Diamond Dude
1 Elemental Hero Stratos
1 Plaguespreader Zombie
1 Gorz the Emissary of Darkness
2 Krebons
1 Dark Grepher
1 Dark Armed Dragon

Spells - 12
2 Destiny Draw
1 Heavy Storm
1 Mystical Space Typhoon
1 Book of Moon
1 Monster Reborn
1 Dark Hole
1 Pot of Duality
1 Mind Control
1 Emergency Teleport
1 Allure of Darkness
1 Reinforcement of the Army

Traps - 8
2 Dimensional Prison
2 Solemn Warning
1 Solemn Judgment
1 Trap Dustshoot
1 Mirror Force
1 Torrential Tribute

Extra Deck
1 Chimeratech Fortress Dragon
1 Number 39: Utopia
1 Leviair the Sea Dragon
1 Number 17: Leviathan Dragon
1 Trishula, Dragon of the Ice Barrier
1 Scrap Dragon
1 Thought Ruler Archfiend
1 Stardust Dragon
1 Ancient Fairy Dragon
1 Black Rose Dragon
1 Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier
1 Orient Dragon
1 Ally of Justice Catastor
1 T.G. Hyper Librarian
1 Magical Android

Side Deck
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Matchups: (This is based off of information I have done during testing.)

Plant Synchro: This deck is about even against Plant Synchro, 50/50.

Karakuri: Barely tested, not in our locals. Wrecks them 80/20.

Agents: Reasonably well-tested, 60/40 in favor of a win.

Lightsworns: Heavily favored. 75/25.

Heroes: We have a -lot- of Hero decks here, and this deck is about 55/45 in favour of winning.

Rabbit: This is one of the worse matchups against this deck. 40/60 against.

TG Stun: Another bad matchup for this deck. 35/65 against.

Dark World: Terrible matchup, this deck has severe problems with them. 25/75 against.

Machina Gadgets: This deck is about even grounds, but it can be surprising to see one of these decks in my area. 45/55 against, but just barely.

Random decks: This deck wipes the floor with anything not listed here.

Given this information, I don't want you to tell me what to change in the deck. I want you to provide a side deck that helps me solve the problems with the decks this deck has problems with. In 48 hours, I will have this topic locked and review answers in a second article, as well as provide my side deck for this deck. So on December 6th, please lock it. I'll make a reminder.

Remember. MAKE A SIDE DECK. DON'T TRY TO OFFER FIXES TO THE DECK.

My name is Jin Kazama, and this is the first part of a two-part interactive article.


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PostSubject: Re: Appropriate Side Decks (INTERACTIVE ARTICLE!)   Sat Dec 03, 2011 3:26 pm

Well when it comes to me siding first i need to see the info which u gave us Very Happy so first ill start with the bad match ups
Rabbit Laggia is a big problem and d-fissure kills ur deck
so
2 Snowman eaters(gets rid of laggia and cant be ran over with jurrac monsters)
2 Mystical Space Typhoon(D-fissure)
2 Bottemless trap hole( to kill the the things rabbit summons)
Total=6

T.G Stun
we already added spell and trap hate so have some more room to deal with this deck
2 Mind Crush because of all the pluses they can get and they usualy main 3 Pot of Duality
would also side 2 Dimensional Prison but u already main them
Total=8

Darkworld
pretty tough here since cards that ussualy kill them kill u also shadow mirror and D-fissure/Banisher
but i think u can side 2 Banisher of the radiance with out getting hurt
i dont know how many ppl do this but id also side 2 Debunk kills darkworld and Plants and other meta so does Banisher
so 2 Banisher and 2 Debunk
Total=12

so thats all for the worst match-ups but those also hurt other match ups u run into
Debunk kills plants Banisher kills plants and gives agents a hard time with an empty grave so finaly id add
2 maxx "C" stops venus plays and stops karakuri plays also from going all out same for Plants

Total=14
Last card i would add would be a Vanitys Fiend it fits in ur deck u summon it it kills a lot of decks u run into and keep beating them down while they dont do anything killing them with it and thunder king they wont be able to do much so

Full list

15 Cards:
2 Snowman eaters
2 Mystical Space Typhoon
2 Bottemless trap hole
2 Mind Crush
2 Banisher of the radiance
2 Debunk
2 Maxx "C"
1 Vanity's Feind
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PostSubject: Re: Appropriate Side Decks (INTERACTIVE ARTICLE!)   Sat Dec 03, 2011 9:51 pm

2x Cyber Dragon - Good vs T.G, Karakuri, Hero Beat, Machina Gadgets..
1x Leeching the light - Agents, Lightsworns
1x D.D. Crow - Plants, Agents, Darkworlds..
1x Spirit Reaper - Rabbit, Plants, Darkworld too..
2x Bottomless trap hole - Rabbit, T.G. and other random decks
2x Mystical Space Typhoon - Rabbit, T.G., Machina ...
1x Debunk - Darkworlds, Plants...
1x Kycoo the ghost destroyer - Plants, Darkworlds, Agents...
1x Doomcaliber knight - Darkworlds, Plants..
2x Fiendish Chain - Rabbit, Plants..
1x Royal Decree - Rabbit, T.G ..
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PostSubject: Re: Appropriate Side Decks (INTERACTIVE ARTICLE!)   Sat Dec 03, 2011 10:40 pm

Maxx "C" x2
Effect Veiler
Doomcaliber Knight x2 - wins games nuff said
Mystical Space Typhoon x2
D.D. Crow
Cyber Dragon x2
Mind Crush
Bottomless Trap Hole/Compulsory Evacuation Device x2
Trap Stun/Royal Decree
Spirit Reaper


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PostSubject: Re: Appropriate Side Decks (INTERACTIVE ARTICLE!)   Sun Dec 04, 2011 9:39 am

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PostSubject: Re: Appropriate Side Decks (INTERACTIVE ARTICLE!)   Sun Dec 04, 2011 9:43 am

robyschlager wrote:
dfs


You my friend just got warned for your stupidity and idiotic post >_>


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PostSubject: Re: Appropriate Side Decks (INTERACTIVE ARTICLE!)   Sun Dec 04, 2011 11:07 am

So ill try u_u

2x CyDra - vs machine typos and ur Extra deck Chimeratech would be total waste ;D
2x Maxx "C" - Suprisingly stops SS 8D
2x Doomcaliber - Just pro
2x Gemini Imps - vs DWs
1x Kycoo - vs dw's plantyo's 'n' shizz
2x MST - S/T hate
2x BTH - vs Rabbit
2x Debunk - vs DW's plantyos
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PostSubject: Re: Appropriate Side Decks (INTERACTIVE ARTICLE!)   Sun Dec 04, 2011 4:24 pm

3x Maxx "C" --> You're suppossed to main these.
2x Cydra
2x Debunk
2x Gemini Imps
1x Veiler
2x Imperial Iron Wall
1x Leeching the light
1x Closed Forest
1x Smashing Ground


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PostSubject: Re: Appropriate Side Decks (INTERACTIVE ARTICLE!)   Mon Dec 05, 2011 2:01 am

Plant Synchro : 2x Maxx "C", 1x Effect Veiler

Karakuri : 2x Maxx "C", 2x Cyber Dragon, 2x Fossil Dyna

Agents : 1x Leeching The Light, 2x Maxx "C", 1x Mind Crush

Lightsworn : 1x Leeching The Light, 2x Maxx "C"

Heroes : 2x Cyber Dragon, 2x Bottomless Trap hole, 1x Mind Crush

Rabbit : 2x Fossil Dyna, 2x Bottomless Trap hole, 2x Maxx "C"

TG Stun : 2x Debunk, 1x Mind Crush, 2x Cyber Dragon, 2x Bottomless Trap hole

Dark World : Gemini Imps

Machina Gadgets : 2x Cyber Dragon, 1x Mind Crush, 1x Effect Veiler

Side Deck :

2x Maxx "C"

1x Effect Veiler

2x Cyber Dragon

1x Leeching The Light

2x Bottomless Trap hole

2x Fossil Dyna

2x Debunk

2x Gemini Imps

1x Mind Crush
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PostSubject: Re: Appropriate Side Decks (INTERACTIVE ARTICLE!)   Mon Dec 05, 2011 8:40 am

Edward wrote:
3x Maxx "C" --> You're suppossed to main these.
2x Cydra
2x Debunk
2x Gemini Imps
1x Veiler
2x Imperial Iron Wall
1x Leeching the light
1x Closed Forest
1x Smashing Ground


Earth monster in Dark Turbo? No room. Also, I specifically said, "Don't fix the deck, offer a side deck".


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PostSubject: Re: Appropriate Side Decks (INTERACTIVE ARTICLE!)   Mon Dec 05, 2011 12:16 pm

1 Soul Release - Personal tech. I love it, and has done me wonders.
1 Starlight Road - LS, TT, Mirror Force, Black Rose rct.
2 Chaos Hunter - Best side versus Rabbit besides Maxx_C. It can discard your darks, and your mali/plagues
2 Cyber Dragons -
2 Maxx C
1 Dust Tornado - Why not?
2 Ally Of justice Qurantine - Imo better than leaching ;D
2 Gemini Imps
1 Effect Veiler
1 Dyna


P.S Like Ed said Maxx C in main is not bad. I mean it is called Dark turbo and it does need some kind of draw power.
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PostSubject: Re: Appropriate Side Decks (INTERACTIVE ARTICLE!)   Mon Dec 05, 2011 1:33 pm

Jin Kazama wrote:
Edward wrote:
3x Maxx "C" --> You're suppossed to main these.
2x Cydra
2x Debunk
2x Gemini Imps
1x Veiler
2x Imperial Iron Wall
1x Leeching the light
1x Closed Forest
1x Smashing Ground


Earth monster in Dark Turbo? No room. Also, I specifically said, "Don't fix the deck, offer a side deck".


15 cards = side deck, I didn't fix the deck, I just added a side note since it'd take more than just that to fix the deck. Nevertheless, Maxx "C" speeds your deck and counters almost all the top decks, please give me a good reason not to have room for it.
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PostSubject: Re: Appropriate Side Decks (INTERACTIVE ARTICLE!)   Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:48 pm

Lock this topic. Time's up!

Also - This deck cycles through cards quite fast on its own, and works in an area where the meta is different than YCS/DN.


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