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PostSubject: March 1st 2012 Banlist Discussion    Mon Jan 30, 2012 5:34 pm

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so whta do think will get hit by ban list? now im not asking what you want but what you think though you can also list what you want as i will list what i think will get hit and what i want to get hit XD

what miht get hit
banned
BLS-EOTB - this guy will either get banned or will saty limited for ever i think XD
monster reborn - TBH it is a rather good card that doeent require a cost
brionac - also good card and pertty powerful though chances are low
limited
evolzr laggia - this guy is basicly a walking solemn judgment without having to pay half your LP
inzektor hornet - obvious reason is obvious
wind-up mouse, or wind-up hunter, or wind-up zenmighty - same as above
semi-limited
rescue rabbit

anther thing to consider is that normaly TCG ban list is same as OCG one

what i want to get hit
banned
none
limited
E-hero abs zero - hes like a unlimited rageki break as is
evolzar laggia
maxx "c"
semi limited
super poly - the fact that its unchanable eman nothing to you?
veiler
burial from the DD

so your thoughts on what you think will get hit and what you want to get hit?
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PostSubject: Re: March 1st 2012 Banlist Discussion    Mon Feb 06, 2012 5:02 am

Bluecheese wrote:
Anyone thinking about the tour guides?

It's just like the moment you play it, it's a XYZ summon ready to happen. I know it can countered easily, but I still think it should at least be semi-limited.


sanji said it all but tourguides might get a slap on the wrist if sangan gets banned
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PostSubject: Re: March 1st 2012 Banlist Discussion    Mon Feb 06, 2012 7:16 am

Hmm prolly hornet will be hit, sangan maybe banned but that would bring witch of the black forest back, also I think that oppression won't come back yet, since maxx c can handle wind ups pretty good, even better than oppression actually.
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PostSubject: Re: March 1st 2012 Banlist Discussion    Tue Feb 07, 2012 1:01 pm

Banned -
Reborn
control
BLS EOTB

Limited -
Oppresion
Fishborg Blaster
Laggia
Dolkka
Hornet
Hunter
Cold Wave

Semi:
Veiler
Kalut
MST
Maxx C

Unlimited:
Chain Strike

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PostSubject: Re: March 1st 2012 Banlist Discussion    Sat Feb 11, 2012 12:46 am

Theres a lot of of poor reasoning here, in which most of the posts i see are based on what they personally want, instead of whats best for the game. That being said, keep in mind nothing needs to happen. The game is so forgone that regardless of what happens nothing will truly change, but anything is possible. Im going to rename this topic March 1st 2012 Banlist Discussion because its pointless to try and predict what konami will do, and its solely better to focus on whats best for the game in general.

I see various attempts of slowing down the game being discussed here, which is good. But you guys want to bring back Royal Oppression with that. Why? Explain in full detail why Oppression needs to come back. Remember what happened previous formats with oppression, the same thing will happen again. Self explanatory Yea we have 3 mst and heavy, but whos to say you will draw it time, or were already forced to waste s/t removal for whatever reason. Remember fiendish chain at the beginning of the format, and how people instantly wrote it out because we had 3 mst again?

Speaking of which, I wouldnt mind if mst did stay at 3. Peoples main concern with this was that there is more s/t removal there was for a long time. So people had to adjust and it does make working with your backrows difficult. However if you waste mst you put yourself in a bad position. If you set it to early without reason, you're in a bad position. It also forces you to make good reads, not to mention it is a one for one. There are various pros and cons on keeping the card where it is and moving it, i dont really care, but i lean towards the former. I do see mst being moved up and down the list, depending on what konami is shooting for.

Also, in various posts explaining that they think would happen, Plants would still be one of the best, if not the best deck. I also dont like how the list above me just has laggia as well as dolkka hit instead of rabbit. Rabbit is the problem. And theres tour guide that makes it so much worse. There are reasons why they also wont hit this card, but something should be done.

Overall I would love to see the game slowed down a bit, and little less focus on so many power cards like dusthoot, and avarice i can see going. Hopefully reborn as well. I doubt this can happen fully. especially since Konami has messed up nationals format for a while now. Because of the unpredictability of the list, ive kinda lost interest as a whole, but i can always hope for the better.
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PostSubject: Re: March 1st 2012 Banlist Discussion    Sat Feb 11, 2012 1:41 am

BLS and heavy came back for a purpose and will be here for another 2-3 formats, so stop saying BLS and Heavy in your messages...

Sangan banned maybe?
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PostSubject: Re: March 1st 2012 Banlist Discussion    Sat Feb 11, 2012 1:47 am

Sangan is pretty much the best thing than can do regarding TGU. Since they wont touch TGU itself for various reasons. Btw who said Heavy was going anywhere?
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PostSubject: Re: March 1st 2012 Banlist Discussion    Sat Feb 11, 2012 3:37 am

RebornShadow wrote:
Sangan is pretty much the best thing than can do regarding TGU. Since they wont touch TGU itself for various reasons. Btw who said Heavy was going anywhere?


Many stupid people did, they also wanned Cold Wave unbanned ._.


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PostSubject: Re: March 1st 2012 Banlist Discussion    Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:04 am

Theres no justification to want nor bring cold wave back...ever lol. Heavy going simply for its card design is possible, but its not going anywhere. Ironically because of how the game is, it needs heavy storm. God knows we dont want a repeat of last summer.
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PostSubject: Re: March 1st 2012 Banlist Discussion    Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:04 am

In all honesty as long as they cripple the WU loop and inzektor's a bit then balance out some of the decks, DW by grapha to 2 and Rabbit by rabbit to 2 then im fine with it





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PostSubject: Re: March 1st 2012 Banlist Discussion    Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:15 am

though this is jsut wishfull thinking and will in no way happen i bet and ill probably get alot of people mad at me for saying this but eh w/e im bored ._.

i would like to see infenrity laucnher get semied
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PostSubject: Re: March 1st 2012 Banlist Discussion    Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:42 am

Sorry, but neither bugs, nor bunnies, nor toys are likely to be touched. Not seeing a reason to touch Sangan, but, hey, at least we will still have Tour Bus.


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PostSubject: Re: March 1st 2012 Banlist Discussion    Sat Feb 11, 2012 3:48 pm

Potus Mat wrote:
Sorry, but neither bugs, nor bunnies, nor toys are likely to be touched. Not seeing a reason to touch Sangan, but, hey, at least we will still have Tour Bus.


Do you realize how stupid you sound saying such blasphemy?

Tour Bus sucks I have 3 and I wasted 50$ on each of them to find out they suck.

Sangan hopefully will be banned. I see no reason for it to stay.

DMAC hopefully will come back
(Dark magician of chaos)

Seeing that come back I'll be maining necromill.

Inzekts, bunnies, and toys are all being touched.
Wind-up loop is too broken to stay.

Inzekts are too annoying to stay.
Agents or Dark World are likely to be hit.
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PostSubject: Re: March 1st 2012 Banlist Discussion    Sat Feb 11, 2012 4:42 pm

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Potus Mat wrote:
Sorry, but neither bugs, nor bunnies, nor toys are likely to be touched. Not seeing a reason to touch Sangan, but, hey, at least we will still have Tour Bus.

Do you realize how stupid you sound saying such blasphemy?
Tour Bus sucks I have 3 and I wasted 50$ on each of them to find out they suck.
Sangan hopefully will be banned. I see no reason for it to stay.
DMAC hopefully will come back
(Dark magician of chaos)
Seeing that come back I'll be maining necromill.
Inzekts, bunnies, and toys are all being touched.
Wind-up loop is too broken to stay.
Inzekts are too annoying to stay.
Agents or Dark World are likely to be hit.

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Tour Bus, when used correctly, is an extremely potent addition to Tour Guide plays.
As for seeing no reason for Sangan to stay, well, innocent until proven guilty, I suppose.
Bugs, bunnies, and toys are all too new to be hit. Honestly, few things get hit right after they are released.


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PostSubject: Re: March 1st 2012 Banlist Discussion    Sat Feb 11, 2012 4:49 pm

[quote="Potus Mat]Bugs, bunnies, and toys are all too new to be hit. Honestly, few things get hit right after they are released.[/quote]

Think of sams and say that again.
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PostSubject: Re: March 1st 2012 Banlist Discussion    Sat Feb 11, 2012 4:49 pm

Potus usually ya, but one thing konami hates is loops, so i see Hunter banned as for sangan, i can see it get banned so they sell tourbus, because if i couldnt use sangan it would be the first option for me to replace sangan with.

i think they will hit them, because thats the reason they were out early in the TCG, as for bunny u could say its not doing good in ocg so wont be hit, but after DSF was banned and kitty was at 1, cat decks werent played in ocg, but tcg had Darksoul, and sabers abused it, so it got banned, TCG meta does effect the banlist, if they cant hit tcg excluisves they hit smthn else to slow the deck down
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