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[Discussion] Can old decks beat new decks?

Post by Centrik on Mon Apr 28, 2014 7:04 pm

So yeah YGO has been releasing OP decks since the appearance of Dragon Ruler (nerf'd but still k.), Spellbook, Bujin,.....And they haven't stopped. They also just released an archetype called Artifact which is very strong in this format. Currently, we have the newest archetype called Satellaknight and it already topped one tournament (OCG): http://www.duelacademy.net/t36448-ocg-card-shop-kirara-tournament

This makes us question like "do old decks really have anything to counter THESE THINGS?" Tough question.....So this is the right time for us to discuss. Show me your opinions, guys Smile All opinions will help me and others a lot.

P/S: Thanks Skit for reporting the tournament.


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Re: [Discussion] Can old decks beat new decks?

Post by BlackWarGreymon on Mon Apr 28, 2014 7:24 pm

When pendulum summon steps on the peak (with legit searchers for cards) and some creativity the old decks can top.

I've seen some bad-ass combos with old cards




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Re: [Discussion] Can old decks beat new decks?

Post by Kandy.JPEG on Mon Apr 28, 2014 7:44 pm

Ehhhh as in old decks you mean? like Heros?




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Re: [Discussion] Can old decks beat new decks?

Post by Order of Chaos on Mon Apr 28, 2014 7:49 pm

Just wanna quote some ppl that said.

"The game is always powercreeping. It's what it does. This spring we will hit the point where it'll get out of hand, a bunch of stuff will be banned and then rinse and repeat."

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Re: [Discussion] Can old decks beat new decks?

Post by Skitoritto on Mon Apr 28, 2014 8:26 pm

Mine Diamon Dude Deck's doing just fine versus new decks ._..
So is my Kuriboh deck ._..

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Re: [Discussion] Can old decks beat new decks?

Post by Anzo on Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:15 pm

I like to believe old decks still have a chance if they could get some good openings.


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Re: [Discussion] Can old decks beat new decks?

Post by AngelicMinaj on Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:42 pm

Im still using my beloved GK's if thats considered old,


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Re: [Discussion] Can old decks beat new decks?

Post by Skitoritto on Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:50 pm

@Anzo,DW's the best example.
@Minaj,they have new support ._..Not considered an old deck D:.

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Re: [Discussion] Can old decks beat new decks?

Post by Train Heartnet on Tue Apr 29, 2014 12:06 am

My Dimensional Eatos is doing just as good as the time a couple of us (me included) created the deck back in the day.




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Re: [Discussion] Can old decks beat new decks?

Post by Kandy.JPEG on Tue Apr 29, 2014 12:07 am

But are they good enough to go against tier 1




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Re: [Discussion] Can old decks beat new decks?

Post by Train Heartnet on Tue Apr 29, 2014 12:36 am

played vs chronomaly, gimmick puppets, new archfiends, heiratic rulers deck be like "You will have no grave... now you will have no effects either... get owned by a 1600 ATK monster that pokes you all day..."




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Re: [Discussion] Can old decks beat new decks?

Post by Order of Chaos on Tue Apr 29, 2014 1:55 pm

They could beat them but they have their best cards limited or banned.



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Re: [Discussion] Can old decks beat new decks?

Post by BlackWarGreymon on Tue Apr 29, 2014 6:19 pm

Mr.Kandy wrote:Ehhhh as in old decks you mean? like Heros?

Actually Ancient Gear




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Re: [Discussion] Can old decks beat new decks?

Post by Centrik on Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:48 pm

Eh new decks may use pendulum too Oh Shit not sure about that.

@Kandy any that's old. From Fire Fist backward.


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Re: [Discussion] Can old decks beat new decks?

Post by BlackWarGreymon on Wed Apr 30, 2014 5:41 pm

Centrik wrote:Eh new decks may use pendulum too Oh Shit not sure about that.

@Kandy any that's old. From Fire Fist backward.

Pendulum is just a ss metod.

Actually, that's what the old decks needed




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Re: [Discussion] Can old decks beat new decks?

Post by Centrik on Thu May 01, 2014 2:32 am

It's still not very popular much. Only see Train using that.


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Re: [Discussion] Can old decks beat new decks?

Post by Skitoritto on Thu May 01, 2014 12:06 pm

Pendulum is over hyped and blows,it's so easy to get rid of and makes the game stupid.
Macro Rabbit or Dino Rabbit is still an alive deck,yes it can beat meta.Found an interesting list on Pojo and it works + it's a budget.

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Re: [Discussion] Can old decks beat new decks?

Post by FenixFX on Thu May 01, 2014 12:26 pm

Obviously some old decks can beat top tiers if you get them rolling. Of course, it depends on many factors, but it primarily depends on the particular match-ups.


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Re: [Discussion] Can old decks beat new decks?

Post by Skitoritto on Thu May 01, 2014 1:10 pm

Play using Bujin vs this deck http://prntscr.com/3f0ury .
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Re: [Discussion] Can old decks beat new decks?

Post by Order of Chaos on Thu May 01, 2014 2:15 pm

Skitler wrote:Play using Bujin vs this deck http://prntscr.com/3f0ury .
Bujin has to use this banlist,GL!

Well , interesting. set rotation .... hmmm



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Re: [Discussion] Can old decks beat new decks?

Post by Skitoritto on Thu May 01, 2014 2:20 pm

Order of Chaos wrote:
Skitler wrote:Play using Bujin vs this deck http://prntscr.com/3f0ury .
Bujin has to use this banlist,GL!

Well , interesting. set rotation .... hmmm
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Re: [Discussion] Can old decks beat new decks?

Post by Virus on Thu May 01, 2014 2:22 pm

Depends on the banlist


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Re: [Discussion] Can old decks beat new decks?

Post by Centrik on Thu May 01, 2014 6:41 pm

Good point Skit. Banlist does give us old decks boosted or new ones nerf'd but they will keep releasing new OP archetypes so k.


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Re: [Discussion] Can old decks beat new decks?

Post by Kandy.JPEG on Thu May 01, 2014 7:38 pm

E drags been dodging banlist for 3 formats now....




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Re: [Discussion] Can old decks beat new decks?

Post by Centrik on Thu May 01, 2014 8:00 pm

Eh that's a special case because they still want to make money with them.


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