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[Discussion] Showdown vs Forbidden scripture

on Thu May 08, 2014 5:06 pm
Sooooo here's another one for you, some newer cards, im not as familiar with cards that stop effects during the dmg step and im sure i've missed lots, but that's what the edit button is for ^_-

Showdown:

Effect:
During the Damage Step, when a monster effect or a Spell/Trap Card is activated: Negate that activation, and if you do, destroy it.


Forbidden scripture:

Effect:
If a monster battles an opponent's monster, during damage calculation: Negate all other card effects on the field until the end of the Damage Step, also this damage calculation from this battle uses each monster's original ATK and DEF.


So then, 2 new cards to mess up honest and crane and graceful dice if you're playing against joey and all sorts of other good stuff. Showdown being a countertrap is looking great how it is, however how i feel is that since it'll be during the dmg step, there aren't all that many cards that you can activate anyways, meaning the spell speed 3 kinda loses some of it's value. Well ofc it's relevant. Just.. a bit less.
Now the interesting card being scripture. Since it negates all effects on the field, it could be used as a trap stun of sorts for some problematic card that's already faceup just for that window to get rid of it.
Now im not sure whether the negation applies for facedowns as well, although that just might not even matter if it lasts for the dmg step and they can just chain to it. Tho im sure someone will find a way to abuse it if that's true.


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Re: [Discussion] Showdown vs Forbidden scripture

on Thu May 08, 2014 5:13 pm
People won't use Showdown because Debunk is tons better than it,as you can counter more stuff with it.Forbidden Scripture can only be good against Bujins,since Debunk deals with Bujin's it isnt that much useful.
If I had to pick I would pick Scripture,as Wiretap/Tools can't stop it.
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Re: [Discussion] Showdown vs Forbidden scripture

on Thu May 08, 2014 5:38 pm
Debunk won't work against any spells/traps that activate during the dmg step, im sure there are some that are still relevant w/o having the benefit a handtrap has. Lance is prob one


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Re: [Discussion] Showdown vs Forbidden scripture

on Thu May 08, 2014 5:43 pm
Not many cards like that in this format,unless people start using them that is.
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Re: [Discussion] Showdown vs Forbidden scripture

on Thu May 08, 2014 5:59 pm
Both are mediocre. Nice ideas for cards but as Skit said in terms of the meta game Debunk is superior to side/main. However these are barely side worthy.


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Re: [Discussion] Showdown vs Forbidden scripture

on Thu May 08, 2014 6:11 pm
Both suck tbh don't hate me.


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Re: [Discussion] Showdown vs Forbidden scripture

on Thu May 08, 2014 6:13 pm
Welp, this one's for the scrapheap >.<


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Re: [Discussion] Showdown vs Forbidden scripture

on Thu May 08, 2014 6:33 pm
They are just more filler cards for the pack. They seem good when you first read them then each time after that, they just seem worse and worse. Still a good discussion idea Hope.


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Re: [Discussion] Showdown vs Forbidden scripture

on Thu May 08, 2014 7:08 pm
showdown only good for kalut which works in damage step, all other cards like honest and crane working during damage calculation. it cant even negate lances, dresses and scripture.
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Re: [Discussion] Showdown vs Forbidden scripture

on Thu May 08, 2014 7:13 pm
Wrong, Honest does activate in the Damage Step. However it's true, all in all the card isn't good. Scripture is better but even that isn't worth the time.


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Re: [Discussion] Showdown vs Forbidden scripture

on Thu May 08, 2014 7:14 pm
but.. dmg calculation is within the dmg step...


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Re: [Discussion] Showdown vs Forbidden scripture

on Thu May 08, 2014 7:15 pm
Showdown is really good though, cause fuck lance.


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Re: [Discussion] Showdown vs Forbidden scripture

on Thu May 08, 2014 9:49 pm
I'd so much rather use Debunk




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Re: [Discussion] Showdown vs Forbidden scripture

on Thu May 08, 2014 10:03 pm
You are not playing versus Glads to need this cardsmjust drop them and wait for KONAMI to release the breaking factor for Gladiators,then necropost this topic!
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